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#1 Sun 06 Jan 08 2:21pm

StormTripper

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Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

I wonder if the Jamie critics will acknowledge that small victory?

From the Sunday Times:

BRITAIN’S supermarkets are to ban the sale of eggs from battery hens amid a growing consumer backlash over the impact of cheap food on animal welfare.

Sainsbury, Morrisons and the Co-op said this weekend that they would ban or phase out the sale of eggs from caged hens. Eggs from battery hens have already been removed from Marks & Spencer and Waitrose.

The move is likely to mean that within three years most supermarkets will sell only eggs from barn, free range and organic hens.

The move coincides with a campaign by celebrity chef Jamie Oliver to persuade consumers to demand better welfare for hens.

Sainsbury, which Oliver promotes, said it expected to end the sale of all eggs from caged hens, which account for a quarter of its egg sales, by next year.

The Coop is expected to announce a similar move and Morrisons said it planned to stop selling eggs from caged hens in its own brand eggs by 2010.

Asda insists that it is “working hard” to phase out the use of eggs from caged hens, but has not set a deadline. Tesco said it was reducing shelf space for eggs from caged hens and it will now come under renewed pressure to announce a ban

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#2 Sun 06 Jan 08 3:51pm

mummza

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

I have just read the same thing on teletext.

This is reasonably good news, but of course it depends on the definition of 'free-range' and 'barn' eggs as conditions for these birds are still often very cramped.

Often these barn chickens are so crammed in that their conditions are awfull , not at all like the words 'barn' conjours-up in your  mind.
Unfortunatly this sometimes also applies to free-range.

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#3 Sun 06 Jan 08 7:26pm

Alex G

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

I thought barn eggs were the same conditions of battery hens  question

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#4 Thu 06 Nov 08 6:06am

miryam

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

i hope one day Morrissons would ban  the sale of eggs from caged hens
We really need good quality for our children, its a torture for the poor chicken to live in those cages

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#5 Thu 06 Nov 08 1:58pm

GeoffP

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

Morrisons have almost phased out eggs from caged birds, more than half their stock is free range or organic or both.

Certainly the case in Bradford, and assume the same elsewhere.

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#6 Sun 16 Nov 08 5:26am

amberpamba

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

From what Ive seen of barn eggs they were scratching around on the ground but it was still extremely cramped. Didnt look like what I had imagined.
I also wonder about the same companies that have both caged and free range eggs, it just seems a bit strange.
I refuse to buy supermarket brand free range eggs and those that have caged and free range. I just dont trust it. I guess you cant trust anyone these days.

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#7 Sun 16 Nov 08 5:45am

The White Rabbit

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

seems that voting with your wallet works

amber, you can get rspca accredited eggs at the supermarket (see link below). And I think there are labelling laws regarding labelling of eggs, it'd be false advertising to label cage eggs as barn and I'm sure the environmental groups in this country would be making themselves heard if that was the case. The egg brands don't always own the farms, the farmers sell the eggs to the company that packages them and there are lots of egg farms of different types (http://www.pacefarm.com/OurProducts/egg … fault.aspx). I often worry about eggs that you get at butchers, they may be organic and from a single farm but how do you know if the hen's are being well cared for?

http://www.rspca.org.au/campaign/choosewiselyfaq.asp
What difference does the RSPCA accreditation scheme make?

Eggs labelled with the RSPCA logo are produced according to RSPCA accreditation standards. These are much higher standards than are legally required. RSPCA standards ensure that hens are housed in conditions where they have access to a nest in which to lay their eggs, litter in which to dust bathe, space to move around freely, flap their wings, stretch and socialise. They have constant access to food and water and are protected from predators and the elements.

RSPCA standards set minimum stocking densities for birds in barn and free-range systems to avoid overcrowding and protect the welfare of the birds.

RSPCA-accredited farms are inspected every 8-12 weeks by an experienced RSPCA egg inspector to ensure that standards are being met.



And now for the obligatory egg facts link that i always seem to post (not always about eggs) http://www.eggs.org.au/index.asp?pageid=197

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#8 Sun 16 Nov 08 5:48am

The White Rabbit

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

Here's a link about egg labelling http://www.eggs.org.au/index.asp?pageid=377

Egg cartons must include the method of production, whether cage, free range or barn laid eggs. These egg production systems must comply with the definitions stated in the Australian Model Code of Practice for the Welfare of Animals Domestic Poultry. The production system definitions must be printed on the carton or made available to the public upon request.

And the definitions of cage, barn and free-range http://www.eggs.org.au/index.asp?pageid=234
Cage Eggs
Most eggs sold in Australia are cage eggs. These eggs come from hens that are permanently housed in cages within a shed. Hens in this system enjoy the benefits of better disease control, protection from predators and significantly lower mortalities.

Labelling definition*: "Birds in cage systems are continuously housed in cages within a shed"

Barn Laid Eggs
Hens in barn systems are free to roam within a shed that is designed to keep them clean and healthy. Although they do not have access to an outdoor range, hens in this system can move around freely while benefiting from protection from predators and poor weather. Greater monitoring is required by farmers to prevent disease and attacks from other hens in the barn system.

Labelling definition*: "Birds in barn systems are free to roam within a shed which may have vertical levels. The floor may be based on litter and/or other material such as slats or wire mesh"

Free Range Eggs
Free range eggs come from hens housed in sheds that have access to an outdoor range during the day. They return to sheds for roosting, laying, drinking and eating. Farmers who house free range flocks must pay closer attention to their birds to minimise the occurrences of cannibalism, disease and predator attacks.

Labelling definition*: "Birds in free-range systems are housed in sheds and have access to an outdoor range"

* The labelling definition is sourced from the Australian Model Code of Practice for the Welfare of Animals Domestic Poultry. (http://www.aecl.org/Images/domestic%20p … 20code.pdf).


Amber, i think you can now relax about whether the labelling is correct.

Last edited by The White Rabbit (Sun 16 Nov 08 5:51am)

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#9 Mon 22 Feb 10 8:50pm

kiprosewood12

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

There are still a lot of battery chickens out there but people are more aware of the cruelty now and a lot of people make an effort to only buy free range, if we all bought free range there would be no place in the market for battery chickens.

though i do understand that money os an issue for a lot of people.

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#10 Tue 23 Feb 10 10:49am

no1girlfrommars

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Re: Sainsburys to stop selling battery eggs

Also, last weekend I went to Sainsburys to buy an already roasted chicken for the OH and I enquired about where the chicken was from. The woman behind the counter looked at me in amazement and said no one had ever asked her that before and she had no idea! I then asked if it was a free-range chicken, she said it wasn't but if I waited an hour and paid 2 more I could get a free-range one. She made a point of saying that all eggs that are used in Sainsburys meals are free-range but that the chicken often isn't. Why is that??

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