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#1 Wed 14 May 08 9:12am

Jamie

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Using the whole chicken

using the whole chicken
I feel that people have lost the art of making multiple meals out of a whole chicken or joint of meat. This is a crying shame because it means a lot of perfectly good meat around the country is going in the bin. To help you make your meat go that little bit further, here are a few ideas to help you get the most out of your chicken.
The poached chicken suggestion below should feed 4 people for two meals.

1. Poached Chicken:

The first thing to do is to get yourself a good quality, free range or organic chicken and put it in a large pot. Cover it with water and add any veg you have handy. I like to add some chopped up carrots, a few sticks of celery, and an onion. Then I throw in some herbs; perhaps a sprig of rosemary and a bay leaf. Add a few peppercorns, a teaspoon of sea salt and a couple of crushed bulbs of garlic and you’re off. Bring it all to the boil and then simmer for about an hour and twenty minutes. Trust me when I say you are going to get beautifully soft and silky cooked chicken, plus a lovely broth.

The reason I love this poached chicken is that you can make it into a hearty meal all year round by using whatever seasonal veg is available. For example, after the chicken has been poaching for about an hour, you could add some quartered fennel. This will cook with the chicken for the last 20 minutes. Things like beans and peas should go in five minutes before the chicken is ready to come out as they cook quickly.

Basically, as long as you know how long your vegetables take to cook, the choices are endless. Below is a list of veg and their timings to get you started. Keep in mind that if it’s summer time the seasonal veg will cook really quickly and be light and delicious.

• Chopped swedes and turnips – 30 mins
• Cabbage – 20 mins
• Chopped potatoes/ new potatoes – 20 mins
• Quartered fennel – 20 minutes
• Frozen or fresh broad beans & peas – 5 minutes
• Chopped asparagus – 5 minutes
• Spinach – 30 seconds

When your chicken is cooked, take it out of the pot, and use a fork to shred as much meat off the bones as possible. Have a little taste to make sure it’s seasoned enough for your liking. Take that torn up beautiful white and dark chicken meat and divide it among some bowls. To finish off, ladle some of the tasty poached broth and veg over it to make a lovely meal of steaming potatoes, greens and peas. This is a great dinner, especially served with a nice dollop of horseradish sauce or mustard.

The Italians do multiple versions of this dish using shins of beef, shoulders of pork and even poached duck (which is delicious). If you try these, don’t forget that different meats take different times to cook. For duck, pork and shins of beef we’re talking about 3 hours of poaching, or until the meat is falling off the bone.

2. Chicken Salads

You can also use the shredded meat from your poached chicken to make a really hearty salad. In the summer, toss it in with some cooked new potatoes, mixed salad leaves and herbs. Dress at the last minute with a splash of extra virgin olive oil and lemon juice or balsamic vinegar then serve it up on a big platter. Delicious!

3. Tasty broth

When you make poached chicken you are going to be left with quite a lot of broth. Don’t throw this away! There’s something really nice about having simple, clean, therapeutic chicken broth.
So put it through a sieve, bag it up and freeze it to use later. It will be fantastic as a stock for making risottos, gravy or soups. For an Asian twist, you could add noodles and veg such as sweetcorn, baby corn, pak choi, chilli or sugar snap peas to the broth.

4. After a roast chicken

Because I love roast chicken, and eat it on a regular basis, I am now in a routine where, before doing the washing up, I throw the carcass and any tasty scraps and scrapings from the roasting and carving tray into a pot.

I cover the chicken with water, add some herbs and bring it all to the boil. This also makes a lovely cloudy broth that you can leave to simmer for an hour or so while you watch a bit of telly in the evening. This broth can be used in the same way as above.

I hope these ideas are helpful. They are certainly tasty. So give them a try and use up all of that chicken!

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#2 Wed 14 May 08 11:05am

mummza

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Re: Using the whole chicken

good thread Jamie  thumbsup
I totally agree with you many people have lost the art of making multiple meals from a whole chicken.
Gone are the days of a Sunday Roast ,Cold meat on Monday , Heated with gravy on Tuesday, Cottage Pie (or similar on Wednesday).

I think that some folk are a bit squeemish about picking all the little bits of meat off the bones on a whole chicken.
I seem to buy less chicken for my family at the moment.
But when I do roast a chicken ...
I tend to do the roast one day.Then strip all the meat from the carcass.
The carcass is then simmered for a reasonable length of time ,with vegetables,herbs,maybe a good slosh of wine ! and then the liquid is strained off leaving the broth.
I then use this stock as ..a base for soups
                                     stock to add to things like a rissotto
                                     to make a fresh gravy

When I make the soup ..

*I will add fresh chopped vegetables to the stock cook it gently.
*I might add a slosh of sherry of wine to the soup as it cooks. (sherry I am told by my family realy goes with the chicken and gives a lovely richness to the soup)
*Towards the end of the vegetables cooking I add some of the chicken meat that I had picked from the carcass.(I generally use the leg eat in this as my family find this the tastiest.)
*I always get the seasoning checked before itsserved.
It is important to ensure that the meat that has been added heats very well for a good few minutes before the soup is served.


Another favorite of my family is 'Chicken Pie'
This version is a little more like a 'cottage or sheperds pie ' as its topped with mashed potatoes rather than having a pastry crust.
I don't have a recipe as such as I make this as to what vegetables we have in the house at the time.
I generally make this the day after I have cooked roast chicken for the family.

What I do is this...
*I peel,chop and put some potatos to boil, when these are cooked I mash them with a knob of butter and a little milk.
*If I am going to add other veg,I peel,and chop these into small pieces and pre-cook them generally all in the same pan.
*I peel and chop a couple of onions and then soften them in a little butter,(over the heat )in a reasonable sized pan.This then becomes a base to make the 'white sauce' with. I do it this way as flavour from the cooked onions is very much in the pan.
Into the onions I then add some more butter and I make this into a roue(sp!)
with some plain flour and then slowley stir in some milk to make the 'white' sauce.
Often I will add the remaining gravy from the sunday roast at this stage..or..a little of the stock that I have made from the carcass<
I also add the cooked chicken pieces that I had removed from the carcass.
*Into the sauce, whilst its hot, I add the pre-cooked veg (that I have just strained and are still hot!)
*I tip all this into a deep sided dish and then I carefully top it with the mashed potatoes, making sure that I seal all around the edges of the dish .
*I then pop this into the oven to brown, but as everything is well heated and cooked I am sure that popping it under the grill would do the same job.

The family realy enjoy this , it does not take as long to prepare as it sounds .
a good thing about this dish is that if you do not have muck chicken left on the carcass , you can 'bulk it up' with a few more veg.

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#3 Thu 15 May 08 6:26pm

Hoveton

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Re: Using the whole chicken

Top hole Jamie,

Mother always taught me the value of the whole apart from the pieces.  Christmas Turkey was the classic.  It lasted for days in some form or another, ending up in the ubiquitous curry at the end.  But at the end of the day it fed 4 at least 4 to 5 times.  There is so many ways of dealing with left overs providing that the leftovers are kept hygienically and chilled correctly.  Now that is what I call good honest home cooking and value for money. 

Over to you Jamie.
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#4 Mon 19 May 08 10:42am

The White Rabbit

From Sydney, Australia
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Re: Using the whole chicken

raviolli and canelloni filling is the usual post-chicken thing in our house - cooking juices can be used to moisten the filling if need be,

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#5 Sun 25 May 08 2:00pm

Mrs Gibba

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our left over chicken goes into stews, chicken and leek pie, and salads mainly.

My mum always used to be able to ge t three meals out of a chicken. 

We tend not to buy a whole chicken unless we have people coming for Sunday lunch but if they happens, then we will get the biggest free range one we can buy so that we can get what we need from the meal and loads of left overs from it.  The last one cost £9 but we fed 4 for the main meal, and then I put 4 two-person portions in the freezer which I think is very good value for money.

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#6 Fri 30 May 08 12:06am

TheBeast2

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Re: Using the whole chicken

I eat a lot of chicken legs (thigh and drumstick) and favour the ballotine preparation, which means I can use the bones for a stock.

I did one recently, which was chicken ballotines and a summer truffle infused chicken sauce, served with basmati. It's only 2 legs, but that's enough stock for 2 people.

Just reduce it, infuse it with the summer truffle, add cream, finish by emulsifying with butter, and correct the seasoning.

More recently, I did a two way roast chicken. The legs with confitted in goose fat, and the breasts were slow roasted. I made a stock from the carcass, which was turned into a gravy.

Of course, this was all served up together with blanched and sauteed broccoli, glazed carrots and peas, but potentially there is a chicken stock for sauce, risotto, etc, chicken breasts and confit chicken legs. So, really, 3 meals instead of one roast.


BTW, a tip to all

Roast your chicken slowly, on as low a heat as you feel comfortable with (I did mine with the oven set halfway between OFF and the S mark) for up to 6 hours (at which point the chicken will be cooked). Heat a pan for 10 minutes on top heat, add some groundnut oil, then fry the skin side of the chicken for about 30 seconds (definitely no more than 2 minutes) to get the skin crisp. That way, you have tender flesh and crispy skin.

And yes, I did nick the idea from Blumenthal, but I think I'd be stupid not to copy some of his ideas.

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#7 Fri 30 May 08 1:14pm

oliviascotland

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Re: Using the whole chicken

Had a chicken on Sunday, roast, which fed 5 hot.  On Monday had one round of chicken sandwiches for lunch, on Wednesday made chicken and leek pie - fed 3 people plus two 2-portion pies in the freezer, and the stock made 11 portions of soup!!  I reckon that's pretty good for one chicken!

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#8 Sun 08 Jun 08 7:35pm

mummza

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Re: Using the whole chicken

One large chicken.. (bit pricy as it was free range !)
yesterday..only 2 at home ...roast with some veg..as soon as the chicken was cool enough I removed and meat (and put it in the fridge) and made a stock( as Jamie does with the carcass ), scraps and any pan scrapings..plus a few veg and veg peelings and left it to cool before chilling it overnight in the fridge.

Today..sandwiches for 4 hungry students who were off on a trip.
and then , with the stock I made yesterday (that had set overnight to a soft  jelly in the fridge)
Then I made chicken rissoto for 3 people
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There is still enough left for my husband to have sanDwiches for his lunch tommorrow.

(and there is still some stock left !)

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#9 Thu 12 Jun 08 12:50pm

cookinlovebird

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Re: Using the whole chicken

Hi All

I even go as far as taking carcases home when I have been to family for lunch, if theres not alot left they expect soup, or chicken tagitelli when they come for a light supper.!!!! But I always do what I can with what I've got, sometimes if I know it was fresh, I freeze it until I have the right amount.

I agree its ashame people don't think what can be achieved from a FR Chicken, aleast 6 -8 different meals, but of course, if you have the know how its easy, but I find most of what you just simply put together works very well.

Good One Jamie
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#10 Wed 18 Jun 08 10:18pm

CookysCooking

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Dear Jamie,
I'm relieved that you have now taken on the fight for cheap and cheerful eating while not resorting to processed food. The young people will listen to you and not think you are just 'old fashioned' such as myself.

My children were brought up with the "If I don't grow it, process it and make it, we don't eat it" philosophy. I had four children times two because of their friends who all loved to stay for meals. So stretching meals to accommodate everyone including the extended family was just an everyday practice.

They lived through it and now appreciate the good wholesome food I grew and created and often look forward to the special treats of bubble and squeak from yesterday's dinner and chicken stew from the leftover carcass as well as the curry if Dad wasn't in the house.

Keep up the good work!

Cooky

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