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#1 Sun 08 Feb 09 11:03pm

Mr Grumpy

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A question for the shrinks

When Barnaby the Bear sang "Barnaby the Bear's my name, Never call me Jack or James" was he experiencing a flashback to a past experience of being psychologically traumatised by being mis-addressed in 'nam, or was it just a not very good rhyme?

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#2 Sun 08 Feb 09 11:22pm

Luvmegrub

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Re: A question for the shrinks

Maybe he had been partying with Dylan off the Magic Roundabout?

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#3 Mon 09 Feb 09 12:52am

abdullahcohn

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Re: A question for the shrinks

I always get peopleís name wrong.
Not sure about bears though, to the best of my knowledge I've always got their names right?

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#4 Mon 09 Feb 09 1:46pm

whitedog

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Re: A question for the shrinks

I think someone was having a lame rhyme moment. Those guys think they can foist any old garbage off onto the young minds.

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#5 Mon 09 Feb 09 3:54pm

Kye

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Re: A question for the shrinks

I've never had any problems with bear's names as they have always suited very well. Barnaby is a "comfortable name". There's St Barnaby, Inspecteur Barnaby, Barnaby Rudge...............but our Barnaby Bear didn't know how the wordings in his song could be dangerous concerning little kids eating habits.....

Treacle pudding, fish and chips,
fizzy drinks and liquorice,
flowers, rivers, sand and sea,
snowflakes and the stars are free,
la la etc...............So,
Barnaby the Bear's my name,
never call me Jack or James,
I will sing my way to fame,
Barnaby the Bear's my name.

I wouldn't want people to call me anything other than my given name, and i think i'm reasonably normal tongue  big_smile  hmm

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#6 Mon 09 Feb 09 8:55pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: A question for the shrinks

Yes, I don't want any of my children eating sand.

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#7 Tue 10 Feb 09 5:39am

chocolatl

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Re: A question for the shrinks

Maybe he knows Loudon Wainwright III:

    "When I'm sober call me Loudon,
      Do not call me Mike."

(from "Drinks before Dinner")

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#8 Tue 10 Feb 09 10:05am

Mr Grumpy

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Re: A question for the shrinks

chocolatl wrote:

Maybe he knows Loudon Wainwright III

Have you ever seen Loudon and Barnaby together?  Makes you think...

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#9 Tue 10 Feb 09 3:43pm

rasher

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Re: A question for the shrinks

There is definitely something there. 

He isn't saying "don't get my name wrong" as he specifically mentions the names Jack & James, which indicates that there is an association.  It could be that Jack & James are identical brothers and he has always lived in their shadow.  He's clearly trying to strike out and be someone himself but feels intimidated and inadequate - so it's a cry for acknowledgement, -  however, being the famous brother, you'd think that he'd already achieved that, so clearly the problem is so deep-seated that it has become an irrational obsession.  I think we'll see Barnaby becoming more and more assertive to the point that he'll end up on Celebrity Big Brother with all those other desperate lost souls trying to recapture a stalled career, but only succeeding in displaying to the world an insecure and slightly deluded and unstable ...err.... bear...with schizophrenic tendencies.

Clearly he blames his mother and there must be an unhealthy sexual attraction there.  I'm not sure if that's normal for bears, but I think it's a bit worrying.  He clearly isn't suitable for childrens TV, I know that much!  Maybe he could take over the Parkinson slot and do a talk show, or present Antiques Roadshow or something.

Poor Barnaby.  I hadn't realised things had got so bad for him.   sad

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