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#1 Tue 30 Oct 12 5:21pm

zacg777

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Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

Hi,
New member here but massive fan of Jamie. I lurk on this forum but have never posted before.

Anyway, I have major problems with my roast potatoes.  I follow the general advise of boiling first, roughen up, transfer to heated oil, season and cook but they never turn out crispy enough. Well actually, they either end up crispy for a little while then go soggy once put in bowl or they are too crispy and dark, verging on burnt.

I'm thinking I'm am doing something wrong, either
- boiling for too long (does this matter?)
- using too much oil or too little
-not having correct oven temp

Any advise is greatly appreciated. My friend makes amazing potatoes that at beautiful, crispy and stay that way even once put in th bowl to serve. Need all your advise please! Thanks!! evil  evil

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#2 Tue 30 Oct 12 5:26pm

cohphanta

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From Jacksonville, FL
Member since Sun 04 Apr 10

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

I only boil mine until I can just poke a fork in them, still a little tough but not hard.  I use a generous amount of oil so that all sides of the potatoes are coated.  Mine seem to be just fine.

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#3 Tue 30 Oct 12 6:46pm

oliviascotland

From Scotland
Member since Wed 06 Apr 05

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

I parboil them like Cophanta, drain them, rough them up a bit, then leave them in the pan with the lid off to allow any excess moisture to escape (in the form of steam).  When they stop steaming, I put them into very hot fat, turn them so they're coated all over, and roast in a hot oven until golden brown and crunchy - they don't tend to go soggy in a bowl, either.

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#4 Tue 30 Oct 12 9:28pm

mummza

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Member since Tue 04 Oct 05

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

Welcome to the forum zacg777 wave

A lot also depends on the type of potato that you are using, waxy potatoes dont roast well floury potatoes roast well. I mostly buy Maris Piper for roasting.

Like the others have said, boil them ( and yes I do sometimes overboil them a bit  lol  lol .. just as well my family really love all those little crispy bits that then happen from the broken potato pieces !!!)

Like Olivia, I also let the potatoes steam off a little before I put them into the hot fat.

I mostly use Trex for roasting the potatoes, Trex is a solid vegetable fat and makes very good roast potatoes. ( I don't use oil )

Once I put the potatoes into the hot fat , I turn them so that they are all coated with the molten fat and then scatter them with salt .
I dont use too much fat , just enugh so that the potatoes get a light coating of fat over them but are not sitting in puddles of fat , if yu know what I mean.
I cook them in a reasonably hot oven in a roasting tray with sides . those roasting  trays wih slightly slopeing sides are best as they don'tt trap the stam that comes from the potatoes as they roast.

They can cook for quite a long time before they start to spoil .

What potatoes do you use zacg777 ?

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#5 Wed 31 Oct 12 12:01am

Kye

Member since Fri 04 Apr 08

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

I have never boiled then roasted...just roasted. Oven hot, potatoes peeled, if too big i half them, cover (not drench) with oil, little salt and pepper and rosemary. Turn them over to get them crisp half way through cooking. When the knife goes through the biggest easily i know they are cooked.

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#6 Wed 31 Oct 12 12:26am

Trilobite

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From London, UK
Member since Mon 27 Jun 11

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

Some good advice here - agree that it's important to let the moisture steam off after boiling. If they're still giving off steam when they hit the fat, they won't get crispy.

The other important factor is screaming hot fat. I like to get it nice and hot in the oven, then put the roasting tray on the stove while I'm adding the spuds. Obviously you need a sturdy metal roasting tray to do this - but by heating on the stove, you make sure that the oil is sizzling when you add the spuds.

But to answer your questions (drawing heavily on Delia Smith) -

- Don't boil your potatoes for too long - they tend to fall apart. Test them by running a knife point along the surface - if you get a fluffy line, they're done. Then, as you say, rough them up before roasting.

- It's less about the quantity of fat and more about the temperature. Hot fat will form the nice, crispy coating you're after. If the fat's not hot enough, the spuds will absorb it and get greasy and soggy. Make sure the oven is nice and hot, and remove your potatoes from the oil as soon as they're done (once out of the fat, you can keep them warm until ready to serve). Drain on kitchen paper.

- Best oven temp is 220C, or 200C for fan ovens.

Something else to consider is the type of potato - for example, Maris Pipers are a good, reliable roasting spud. And try flavouring your oil - I like to chuck in some fresh rosemary and a couple of cloves of garlic.

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#7 Wed 31 Oct 12 9:13am

zacg777

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Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

I think my issue may be the type of potatoe I'm using. I use n all purpose potatoe as my local supermarket doesn't have marris pipers (I just have a mini tesco's near me).  Think I might have to travel further afield to get different ones maybe.

I do let the oil get very hot and coat them and I also let them steam off first before adding to oil.

Basically I'm hoping it's the potatoe that's the issue now!! My other half thinks my potatoe are fine and that I have too high standards but they doesn't look like Jamie's s in that Christmas episode where he makes 3 different types of potatoes!

Thanks so much for all your advise. X

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#8 Wed 31 Oct 12 1:46pm

koukouvagia

From New York
Member since Fri 12 Dec 08

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

Well, I know people are fond of parboiling but I never do this.  I have done it and I am not happy with the results.  I've experimented with roasting potatoes for years because roasted potatoes are by far my favorite food on earth.  I've tried all kinds of potatoes and all kinds of methods and have found the method I love best.

Waxy potatoes are good for roasting, they hold their shape but stay rather firm which can be nice sometimes.  My favorite is yukon gold potatoes, they are not as starchy as the all-purpose but they do fall apart easily.  Their flavor is unbeatable.

I NEVER parboil.  I toss into a pan, raw with olive oil and butter and herbs and seasonings.  Cover with foil and put into a 400F convection oven for about 45-60min.  Then uncover and let them get golden.

You see, the potatoes have lots of moisture inside them, they do not need to be boiled imo.  They steam in their own juices and really taste like a potato.  Not a fan of parboiling, they end up tasting boiled to me.  That's just my opinion though.

The good thing about potatoes is that they are relatively inexpensive so you can really experiment endlessly.

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#9 Wed 31 Oct 12 3:27pm

hippytea

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Member since Mon 12 Sep 11

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

I agree, your variety is probably your problem. "All-purpose" covers a multitude of sins, not just varying variety but watery, bad quality spuds can be lurking in there as well. If you check the pack carefully, it will usually tell you the variety, but it is usually an obscure one you've never heard of.

So it's a question of how much you really want it. If you daydream of crispy, fluffy roasted spuds, you're going to have to travel in search of better raw material. As others have said, Maris Piper are good, also King Edward or Rooster.

I would also invest in an oven thermometer and check your oven temp, as it may be reading off. And line the bowl with a tea towel when you serve your spuds - it will delay them getting soggy.

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#10 Wed 31 Oct 12 3:30pm

hippytea

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Member since Mon 12 Sep 11

Re: Roast potatoes - what am I doing wrong???

Just to add I rather like waxy roasties as well, a different experience from fluffy ones but very good in their own way. I get charlottes or the ones labelled as "salad potatoes" or "new potatoes", cut them in half, toss in oil and salt and roast at about 220C for 20-30 min. I don't parboil them, or peel them as I like the skin. Give it a try.

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