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#1 Thu 22 Mar 07 9:10am

Maree

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From Newcastle, Australia
Member since Sat 10 Mar 07

Re: kale

I've noticed that several Northern Hemisphere recipes call for kale.
To my understanding it is a green leafy vegetable (maybe wrong).I can't find it locally or at Farmers'/Growers' markets.
Is it known as something else in Oz?
What can I substitute? ???Spinach?
Thanks in advance.


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#2 Thu 22 Mar 07 11:26am

GeoffP

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Re: Re: kale

Kale is nothing like Spinach, I'm afraid!

Kale is a tough, hard deep green variety of open leaf cabbage, very similar to "Spring Greens". Unlike spinach, it doesn't collapse when cooked, but retains its crisp texture.

Here is all you would want to know about Kale:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kale

and Spring Greens:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_greens

(Spring Greens in the Northern Hemisphere are NOT the same as Spring Greens in Australia - where it refers to the tender young leaves, rather than the tough winter cabbage)

I would guess that you might find it at farmers markets or organic veg stores - or you could grow your own if your local climate is cold enough.

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#3 Thu 22 Mar 07 11:34am

Maree

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From Newcastle, Australia
Member since Sat 10 Mar 07

Re: Re: kale

Thanks, Geoff. Sydney (coastal) wouldn't be cold enough to grow kale.Thanks for warning me off the spinach (much as I love it).

Could I get away with using cabbage leaves (the ones normally discarded)?

Many thanks,
Maree.


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#4 Fri 23 Mar 07 9:25am

GeoffP

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Re: Re: kale

Hi Maree.

Yes, at a pinch you could use the rough outer leaves of a dark green cabbage like Savoy to replace kale - but keep searching for the real thing - it has been sighted in Oz

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#5 Fri 23 Mar 07 2:33pm

Maree

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From Newcastle, Australia
Member since Sat 10 Mar 07

Re: Re: kale

Thanks for your re-response, Geoff. Will keep seeking kale but difficult on the coast.

Meantime, I will "barter with my organic greengrocer for his off-cuts of "throw away" leaves for my produce.

Hint to all: if you have a product to "flog", try bartering. Takes confidence and a deep breath of air but that is how I've obtained most of my wholesale distributors and suppliers

Best wishes,
Maree


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#6 Fri 23 Mar 07 3:16pm

Maree

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From Newcastle, Australia
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Re: Re: kale

Thanks for your re-response, Geoff. Will keep seeking kale but difficult on the coast.

Meantime, I will "barter with my organic greengrocer for his off-cuts of "throw away" leaves for my produce.

Hint to all: if you have a product to "flog", try bartering. Takes confidence and a deep breath of air but that is how I've obtained most of my wholesale distributors and suppliers.

Of course, this approach applies to all potential clients. Take a deep breath, have your facts, have info sheets and business cards and have samples of your "wares".

So, I'll barter with my organic greengrocer and the Farmers'/Growers' markets.

Have a good one,
Maree.

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#7 Sat 24 Mar 07 7:27am

The White Rabbit

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Re: Re: kale

Here in australia silverbeet is known as spinach.  kale is most commonly caverlo nero (bleck cabbage) - it's a type of kale. You can try Matt Brown's greens http://www.hospitalitymagazine.com.au/a … 0383cd.asp in mascot or fratelli fresh in alexandria/waterloo

or emile's fruit and vege on darling st in balmain

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#8 Sat 24 Mar 07 12:40pm

Maree

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From Newcastle, Australia
Member since Sat 10 Mar 07

Re: Re: kale

I know that Spinach is known as known as "english spinach".(Tiny leaves).

Will ask my local fruit and veg suppliers for "cut off and throw away" cabbage leaves to use for kale.

Cheers,
Maree.

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