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#1 Mon 17 Dec 12 3:32pm

kah22

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My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

This year I'm making various palimers or elephant ears some might know them as. But I'm having a little difficulty with the actual baking and would appreciate some advice.

The recipes I've read say to stand them up on their ends, as shown in the Gordon Ramsay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ColSQnPFWJs  (1min 43 sec in), however, when I do this within four minutes the pastry topples over on its side causing a spill out. Can't figure out how to combat this.

Because I'm using puff pastry I can't use the other palmiers for support so how on earth can I keep them upright - any ideas.

Two possible reasons they are falling over is that I have a fan assisted oven and I'm wondering if the fan is actually blowing them over, or they topple when the pastry becomes moist. Iím thinking out loud here but another reason might be the palmiers are two full.

Any ideas as to why they topple over and what can I do to stop them?

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#2 Mon 17 Dec 12 7:20pm

Kye

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

This is the first time that i have heard that they could be cooked 'upright', whenever i make Palmiers i slice and cook them flat once leaving them for a while in the freezer.

This is also Gordon Ramsay's recipe for Palmiers:
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/c … ers-recipe

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#3 Mon 17 Dec 12 9:43pm

mummza

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

You need to cook them flat on a tray lined with baking parchment .
They will never cook standing up as the fat in the pastry softens as it cooks and they will just flip over  lol oh dear I can just imaging the struggle you have been having  lol( sorry I know I shouldn't laugh ).

So cook them flat with a good space around them , after they have cooked cool them and then you can stand them on their edge if you want ( and if they last that long  big_smile

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#4 Tue 18 Dec 12 12:47am

Kye

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

big_smile mummz wave

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#5 Tue 18 Dec 12 12:49am

Kye

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

lol

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#6 Tue 18 Dec 12 1:11am

kah22

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

After my last post I went back to the drawing board and re-checked Ramsay's video, see link above, and yes I had them standing the way he stood his. So far so good. I then looked at the Channel 4 website, see Kye's post above and noticed one glaring fault. "slice into 1cm thick slices" mine were more like 2 1/2 cm.

I had a few large ones in the freezer and cut them into 1/4 inch sizes, placed one in the fridge for twenty minutes or so and the other back in the freezer. After the ones in the fridge had defrosted a little I baked them and the ones from the freezer. The results were much more impressive, I still have to get my temperature right (working on an old oven), and the ones put in from the freezer seemed to bake that little bit better. But I'll know better when I bake a larger batch, possibly tomorrow.

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#7 Tue 18 Dec 12 1:08pm

mummza

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

I have just watched the vidio link kah22 ... Mr Ramsey does not stand the Palmiers to cook , he lies them down on the baking tray .

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#8 Tue 18 Dec 12 7:15pm

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

I have no wisdom to add to this, I just wanted to congratulate you on a wonderful thread title.

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#9 Tue 18 Dec 12 8:56pm

@nGoose1

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

I agree totaly with hippytea
That said I think Jamie has just blogged Palmiers using the peppers advertised.

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#10 Tue 18 Dec 12 10:13pm

mummza

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Re: My Elephant's Ears Keep Falling Over

@nGoose1 wrote:

I agree totaly with hippytea
That said I think Jamie has just blogged Palmiers using the peppers advertised.

It was on Jim's blog that these were mentioned and he made up the recipe as the part of a challange

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