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#11 Wed 06 Feb 13 4:43pm

karenlesley

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

Not to make light of the fact that equine D.N.A. has been found in beef burgers, I think it wasn't actual horsemeat that had been minced and added, but a powder - produced in the Netherlands - containing horse D.N.A, as a bulking agent. The manufacturers apparently didn't know of this.
As for people who eat only Halal or Kosher meat, I don't think they need to worry, as these are produced in specialist establishments which are regularly inspected by Immams or Rabbis.
Karen

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#12 Wed 06 Feb 13 5:40pm

wine~o

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

linda.cooney.12 wrote:

Hi ... My daughter ate a tesco burger and within 6 minutes she was in acute severe anaphylaxis  shock. She was rushed to intensive care and the doctors where unsure if she would even make it through the night. She survived thank God. I mentioned to the doctors at the time that all she had was a burger. They didn't really find out what happened to her that night. Ran tests and said she's highly allergic to a lot of things. When this burger scandal came out I just knew she nearly died because of that. She can't even go near a horse never mind consume its flesh. I'm sickened that this could have possibly ended her life. We live in Dublin.

I'm the same with peanuts....though strangely only for the last 10 years or so.

Best stick with home-made burgers if you can...

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#13 Wed 06 Feb 13 6:12pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

karenlesley

http://news.sky.com/story/1046495/halal … n-pork-dna

You know stuff that says Halal on it is very rarely Halal. On the whole slaughterhouses just produce meat they always do and pay some guy like Masood Khawaja, from the Halal Food Authority mentioned in that article to cirtify it as Halal.
I know the trading standards have given Masood Khawaja, from the Halal Food Authority many fines for cirtifying clerly non-Halal meat as Halal for payment.
Off the top of my head I can name two takeaways that Masood Khawaja's Halal Food Authority have cirtified as Halal for a fee that sell pig parts in their food.

The UK government can give as many fines to Masood Khawaja's Halal Food Authority as they like. He will keep on doing it because he makes a lot more money on cirtifying food that isn't Halal as Halal than he loses in fines.

He and people like him is why HMC was set up, they inspect meat at ever stage or production.

Even though I believe in a religion. I do not trust organised religion.
People calling themselves priests, Rabbis and Imams and expecting us to trust them.
I kind of get the feeling if you pay someone, he will do what ever is asked of him. I can't speak for Jews. But me personally, I would think if a slaughterhouse pays an Imam he would say what ever they make is Halal whether it is or not. That is why I believe in independent inspection.

I used to respect organisations of all religions. But I lost faith in all organised religion when my son became ill. I thought a religious school would be better for him because I thought religious people are like that. So applied to our Local Church of England school. He had a SEN so they have to accept him by law. But they refused to because they didn't want disabled people in thier school.
Even though I still believe in God and my religion, I lost faith in all organised religiobn after that. I don't trust anyone anymore.
Now he goes to my old school and his teacher was teaching there when I was there. She wasn't  my teacher but was my older brothers one and remembers me.

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#14 Wed 06 Feb 13 6:19pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

Masood Khawaja, from the Halal Food Authority is a real ****. Here he says laws should be made stronger. But his own organisation is the biggest law breaker when it comes to falsely labeling Non-Halal meat as Halal.
He has always been known as someone to call for the removal of laws that safeguard Halal/Kosher.

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#15 Wed 06 Feb 13 7:44pm

wine~o

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

abdullahcohn wrote:

Masood Khawaja, from the Halal Food Authority is a real ****. Here he says laws should be made stronger. But his own organisation is the biggest law breaker when it comes to falsely labeling Non-Halal meat as Halal.
He has always been known as someone to call for the removal of laws that safeguard Halal/Kosher.

Oh....do get off your high "Horse" Abdullah... big_smile

(No offence meant, or taken, I  presume... hmm )

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#16 Wed 06 Feb 13 8:01pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

lol, good one, No offence taken you were only horsing arround.

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#17 Thu 07 Feb 13 7:21pm

wine~o

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

According to the "Daily Mirror" yesterday, Asda "beef" burgers were found to contain up to 80% Horsemeat....

I would google the story and provide a link....if I could be that bothered about people who shop where the food is cheapest...because the cheapness is all they care about...

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#18 Thu 07 Feb 13 7:46pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

I can beat that. Beef Burgers have been found with 100% horse meat. I heard it on BBC radio. I can't remember which supermarket cause I was driving at the time.

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#19 Thu 07 Feb 13 11:03pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

Findus Beef Lasagme can be 100% horse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink … -meat.html

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#20 Thu 07 Feb 13 11:14pm

abdullahcohn

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Re: Horsemeat in Irish burgers

You know the it was 60-100% horse meat. So you can say the lasagne was horse but sometimes it was contaminated by up to 40% cow meat?


You know, I think they should start testing burgers for cat, dog and Human.
Loads of stray cats and dogs are killed each year, what happens to their bodies?
And are we really sure crematoriums can be 100% trusted to burn everything that goes in? Can we trust morgues to dispose all the bits they pull out in a incinerator?

You know KFC is said to be finger licking good. But when you eat their burgers could you be licking some dead guys fingers?

I mean people why would people that put upwords of 100% horse and downwords of 0 % beef in beef be trusted to end it at horse?

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