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#1 Thu 29 Aug 13 4:59pm

greenlady

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Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

I know alcohol evaporates in cooking but I'm wondering if it gets "trapped" in cakes, so I avoid it if I am cooking for a particular member of the family.

It'd be great to get this clarified. Thanks.

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#2 Thu 29 Aug 13 6:40pm

oliviascotland

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

I have, in the past, brought alcohol for a cake to the boil, simmered for a bit and then cooled it before using.  That way you should get all the taste and not the alcohol.

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#3 Fri 30 Aug 13 2:07am

The White Rabbit

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

Ethanol, which is "alcohol", boils at 78.3C. The method Olivia describes will work. In a cake chances are some will get caught but there would only be a minimal amount left. Unless someone had an allergy or a religious/social aversion you shouldn't need to pre-boil for your regular nondrinkers. Most recipes don't contain much anyway unless it's drizzled on top after baking. In which case you may want to pre-boil as heat from the cake even immediately after cooking won't necessarily be enough.

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#4 Fri 30 Aug 13 7:28am

davidjackson

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

I have never tried making cakes previous to and would like to give it a try.

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#5 Fri 30 Aug 13 9:27am

Ashen

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

There are alcohol burn off charts for cooking.  it takes about 2.5 hrs of baking/ simmering to get the level of down to ~5% left in the mixture.  typical baking of a cupcake to cake would leave about 25 to 35 % of the alcohol.   A quick boil than cool will actually leave about 85 %  so if you do that before baking you still could have ~20% retention in a cake. 

http://nutrition-profiles.com/node/61

the nature of how alcohol binds with water  is why bringing it above the boiling point of  pure alcohol for short durations is insufficient to evap all alcohol out of a mixture.   To truely burn it off , you would need to dry out  almost all of  the moisture.

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#6 Fri 30 Aug 13 10:25am

greenlady

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

Oops, Ashen. That's worrying! I assured family member that when I cook with white wine it evaporates COMPLETELY.  shocked
And I was just worried about baking... oh dear!  hmm

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#7 Wed 11 Sep 13 6:07am

davidjackson

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

I’m happy that you shared this useful info with us. Please keep us informed like this. Thanks for sharing.

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#8 Wed 11 Sep 13 4:43pm

minerva

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

If you want flavour but don't want the alcohol, substitute Apple or Orange juice (decide which according to the other flavours you are using in the cake) instead. It will keep the liquid content of your recipe the same & will add a fresh zing to your cakes without the worry.
If you are using dried fruit, you can soak them in the fruit juice for a couple of hours at least & then add the remainder of the liquid as normal.

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#9 Wed 11 Sep 13 11:54pm

Grandmadamada

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

what happens with vin brulè  then, it has often been said that it can be given to children because the alcohol has gone by burning it,

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#10 Thu 12 Sep 13 1:10am

Maree

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Re: Using alcohol in cakes (for members of family who are T-totals)

Agree with Min ... Use apple or orange juice depending on other flavours ... Old family recipe steeps dried fruit in strong tea (might be an acquired taste) ... I often soak dried fruit in oj (not just for cakes, either).


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