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#1 Wed 23 Jan 08 1:14pm
Shahriar
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MSG LINKED TO OBESITY
Received this article in an e mail, don't know how true it's but would be interested to get views back on it.
Shahriar
MSG (a slow poison)
MSG
The food additive MSG (Mono-Sodium Glutamate) is a slow poison. MSG
hides behind 25 or more names, such as Natural Flavoring." MSG is even in
your favorite coffee from Tim Horton's and Starbucks coffee shops!
I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive
obesity epidemic, and so did a friend of mine, John Erb. He was a research
assistant at the University of Waterloo in Ontario , Canada , and spent
years working for the government. He made an amazing discovery while
going through scientific journals for a book he was writing called The Slow
Poisoning of America.
In hundreds of studies around the world, scientists were creating
obese mice and rats to use in diet or diabetes test studies.
No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so scientists have to create
them. They make these creatures morbidly obese by injecting them with
MSG when they are first born.
The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates, causing rats
(and perhaps humans) to become obese. They even have a name for the
fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats."
When I heard this, I was shocked. I went into my kitchen and checked
the cupboards and the refrigerator. MSG was in everything -- the Campbell 's
soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavored potato chips, Top Ramen,
Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen
prepared meals, and Kraft salad dressings, especially the "healthy low-fat" ones.
The items that didn't have MSG marked on the product label had
something called "Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein," which is just another
name for Monosodium Glutamate.
It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our
children everyday are filled with this stuff. MSG is hidden under many
different names in order to fool those who read the ingredient list, so that
they don't catch on. (Other names for MSG are "Accent, "Aginomoto,"
"Natural Meat Tenderizer," etc.)
But it didn't stop there.
When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants
what menu items contained MSG. Many employees, even the managers, swore
they didn't use MSG.
But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly
provided, sure enough, MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere.
Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant -- even
the sit-down eateries like TGIF, Chili's, Applebee's, and Denny's -- use MSG
in abundance. Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender:
MSG was in every chicken dish, salad dressing. and gravy. No wonder I loved
to eat that coating on the skin -- their secret spice was MSG!
So why is MSG in so many of the foods we eat? Is it a preservative,
or a vitamin?
Not according to my friend John Erb. In his book The Slow Poisoning
of America, he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it
has on the human body.
Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby
group supporting MSG explains that the reason they add it to food is to
make people eat more.
A study of the elderly showed that older people eat more of the foods
that it is added to. The Glutamate Association lobbying group says eating
more is a benefit to the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us?
"Betcha can't eat [just] one," takes on a whole new meaning where MSG
is concerned! And we wonder why the nation is overweight!
MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their
products. It makes people choose their product over others, and makes
people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added.
Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive
substance. Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago,
MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the pre-packaged meals,
soups, snacks, and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday.
The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food.
They claim it's safe to eat in any amount. But how can they claim it's safe
when there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these:
"The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of
exercise in obesity." Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA. Res
Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002.
"Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin
release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats." Guimaraes
RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori C, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro. Brain Res Bull.
2002 Aug.
'Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in
spontaneously hypertensive rats: An animal model of multiple risk factors."
Iwase M, Yamamoto M, Iino K, Ichikawa K, Shinohara N, Yoshinari Fujishima.
Hypertens Res. 1998 Mar.
"Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in
suckling period and subsequent development of obesity." Tanaka K,
Shimada M, Nakao K Kusunoki. Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct.
No, the date of that last study was not a typo; it was published in
1978. Both the "medical research community" and "food manufacturers" have
known about the side effects of MSG for decades.
Many more of the studies mentioned in John Erb's book link MSG to
diabetes, migraines and headaches, autism, ADHD, and even Alzheimer's.
So what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping this
fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity
epidemic we now see?
Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of
the highest government health officials in Canada .
While he was sitting in the government office, the official told him,
"Sure, I know how bad MSG is. I wouldn't touch the stuff." But this
top-level government official refuses to tell the public what he knows.
The big media doesn't want to tell the public either, fearing issues
with their advertisers. It seems that the fallout on the fast food industry
may hurt their profit margin. The food producers and restaurants have
been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying
the price for it. Our children should not be cursed with obesity caused
by an addictive food additive.
But what can I do about it? I'm just one voice! What can I do to
stop the poisoning of our children, while our governments are insuring
financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us?
This message is going out to everyone I know in an attempt to tell
you the truth that the corporate-owned politicians and media won't tell you.
The best way you can help to save yourself and your children from
this drug-induced epidemic is to forward this article to everyone.
With any luck, it will circle the globe before politicians can pass the legislation
protecting those who are poisoning us.
The food industry learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if
big tobacco had a bill like this in place before someone blew the whistle
on nicotine?
If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is good for
us and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for yourself. Go
to the National Library of Medicine at www.pubmed.com. Type in the
words "MSG Obese" and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear.
We the public do not want to be rats in one giant experiment, and we
do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic,
addicted sheep, feeding the food industry's bottom line while waiting for
the heart transplant, the diabetic-induced amputation, blindness, or other
obesity-induced, life-threatening disorders.
With your help we can put an end to this poison. Do your part in
sending this message out by word of mouth, e-mail, or by distribution of
this printout to your friends all over the world and stop this "Slow
Poisoning of Mankind" by the packaged food industry.
Blowing the whistle on MSG is our responsibility, so get the word out.
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#2 Wed 23 Jan 08 2:02pm
GeoffP
Occupation Retired Clergy & Computer Consultant
- From Bradford, West Yorks
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Re: MSG LINKED TO OBESITY
I wouldn't panic too much just yet.
The Japanese and Chinese, who use MSG extensively in their diet, are less likely to be obese, and suffer fewer heart attacks than us Westerners.
The studies on rats and mice fed high quantities of MSG (typically 4 to 5gm per day), and a high fat diet specifically in order to make them obese don't translate easily into humans. To get the same level of msg intake, a person would have to eat approx 1/2 a kilo of msg each and every day.
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#3 Wed 23 Jan 08 2:25pm
Shahriar
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Thank you for the feed back. would be interesting to get Jamie's thoughts also.
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#4 Fri 25 Jan 08 2:02pm
Stefanie

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"The Japanese and Chinese, who use MSG extensively in their diet, are less likely to be obese, and suffer fewer heart attacks than us Westerners."
Perhaps in your collection of recipes....????
I would be highly insulted if anyone did suggest that.
Someone once told me MSG is only used extensively in cheap asian takeaway stores and I agree...
I can't help that. Neither can I help it if restaurants or fast food places or preserved food utilises it.
But I can and will not use it in my home cooking. Take a look at The Silk Road. None of the recipes...not even one uses MSG and they still taste awesome.
Asians are less likely to have heart attacks simply because we do not include a large amount of butter,cream and cheeses in our diet. And because we do not consume large portions at any one meal.
Nothing to do with MSG.
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#5 Fri 25 Jan 08 6:34pm
smile_seta
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Stefanie wrote:
Asians are less likely to have heart attacks simply because we do not include a large amount of butter,cream and cheeses in our diet. And because we do not consume large portions at any one meal.
Nothing to do with MSG.
I totally agree with Stefanie.
I for one as much as possible won't use anything with MSG if can be helped. First, MSG is artificial and I don't want artificial taste or cooking. Second, there are talks that MSG might link to certain types of cancer, but of course, I'm not a scientist, but better safe than sorry.
I'm an Asian, and I really, really, really don't like MSG.
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#6 Fri 25 Jan 08 6:41pm
smile_seta
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Of course, I don't want to speak ill of MSG producers.
I enjoy Japanese cuisine very much and I don't think that all Japanese chefs use MSG in their art. Can I mention a brandname here? Ajinomoto (it literally means "Origin of Taste") is synonymous to MSG in like half of the world and it came from Japan. If someone puts Ajinomoto in a bowl it is OK by me. I'm just saying that if I'm given the choice, I wouldn't put it in MY food.
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#7 Fri 25 Jan 08 6:48pm
smile_seta
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Jamie is an endorser of Royal Worcester, right? I think most Worcestershire Sauces have MSG in them. I haven't seen the ingredients of Royal Worcester yet. But if it contains MSG, then it means that Jamie is 100 % fine with using MSG in the diet. If I'm wrong just feel free to correct me anytime.
Anyway, I do hope that Jamie gives his insight on this. Jamie?
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#8 Sat 26 Jan 08 1:57am
GeoffP
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Just two things, smile_seta ![]()
1) Royal Worcester is a manufacturer of porcelain:-
http://www.royalworcester.co.uk/
They produce several of Jamie's collections
http://www.royalworcester.co.uk/pattern … 3&id=2
2) Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce (the only genuine variety) is made to an 1830 recipe (its a fermented anchovy sauce), and contains no MSG. It is a thin liquid sauce, somewhat like fish sauce.
Japanee "Worcestershire" sauce is nothing like the genuine article, and is a fruit based sauce rather than fish based. If anything, it is more like Garton's HP Sauce.
You were joking, weren't you?
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#9 Sat 26 Jan 08 7:49am
Stefanie

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smile_seta...well said!
Royal Worchester is a porcelain manufacturer though...
And it is sort of an unspoken agreement that most seasonings and sauces purchased outside have additives in them to enhance the flavour---again there is nothing much we can do about it unless in extreme cases...say,where the person is severely allergic to MSG and is totally unable to consume anything with a trace of this.
The best we can do is make sure the raw ingredients we start off with are wholesome and fresh...and when we cook,we do not weigh the whole dish down with bottled sauces or condiments...
They are not there to be the star of the dish!
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#10 Mon 28 Jan 08 2:32am
smile_seta
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GeoffP wrote:
Just two things, smile_seta
1) Royal Worcester is a manufacturer of porcelain:-
http://www.royalworcester.co.uk/
They produce several of Jamie's collections
http://www.royalworcester.co.uk/pattern … 3&id=2
2) Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce (the only genuine variety) is made to an 1830 recipe (its a fermented anchovy sauce), and contains no MSG. It is a thin liquid sauce, somewhat like fish sauce.
Japanee "Worcestershire" sauce is nothing like the genuine article, and is a fruit based sauce rather than fish based. If anything, it is more like Garton's HP Sauce.
You were joking, weren't you?
Oh, OK.
Sorry 'bout that. I didn't konw it's a porcelain. I thought Royal Worcester is a brand of Worcertershire Sauce.
Because they sound similar (?) Dumb me. ![]()
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