JoyYamDaisy wrote:

We are shocking in Australia Mummza, you should see what we call apple crumble!

oh dear ... what do you call apple crumble ?



And as for Shepherds Pie ... if I ever see that Man who was doing the masterclass on Australia Masterchef I will be sure to tell him
that Cottage pie is made with beef and Shepherds Pie is made with Lamb
( there is a clue in the name as its the Shepherds who look after the sheep )

Our apple crumbles generally have oats and nuts in the crumble, and not much flour (although I am sure there are places here where the UK tradition is strong).
So long as it is crumbly, we call it a crumble!

I did know about Shepherd's Pie/Cottagers Pie, but lamb was so ubiquitous here that meat and lamb were just about synonymous, so that it is no wonder that so many Australians think mince meat with a mashed potato topping = shepherd's pie.

Keep telling them though, it is educational and fun!

I like your point too Ashen! I often think of that with almond biscuits, wholewheat biscuits, and dog biscuits!

Wiki says 'Cottage Pie' is an older term for a pie made with leftover beef or mutton and that the use of 'Shepherd's Pie' for lamb and 'Cottage Pie' for beef is a newer use of the terms.  Do you guys from the U.K. agree with this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottage_pie

eta: forgot the link!

Joy, now you have me confused about crumbles.  We make it crumbly with oats and call it a 'crisp'.  Back to Wiki for how the U.K. peoples do it.

Last edited by MsPablo (Sun 24 Feb 13 2:41pm)

Yes, you agree with Wiki about Shepherds versus Cottage?

Here's Wiki on Crumbles.  We've had it here since our British colonial days and it's never really become unpopular.  I see they originals were made with flour, not necessarily oats, but the addition of oats was brilliant, in my opinion, whoever came up with that, but I am sure various flours could have been used depending on where one lived and what was plentiful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumble

Last edited by MsPablo (Sun 24 Feb 13 2:44pm)

JoyYamDaisy wrote:

Our apple crumbles generally have oats and nuts in the crumble, and not much flour (although I am sure there are places here where the UK tradition is strong).
So long as it is crumbly, we call it a crumble!

Not sure what you mean...........I am as English as it gets & all my 'Crumbles' have always used Oats in them........I also use Demerara sugar to make a better crunch. An oaty crumble definitely isn't a 'foreign' invention!

One of my  most popular 'Crumbles is Apple, but with a buttery caramel sauce coating the fruit & crushed nut brittle mixed into the oaty mixture.